Ford quality: check engine light at 5300 miles

"Jayhawk Jake" (jayhawkjake)
05/28/2016 at 16:06 • Filed to: None

EDIT: Searched the forum, supposedly there is a TSB. Hopefully it’ll get fixed. Too bad I can’t get anywhere with my speaker noise issue...

For third time I’ve gotten a CEL indicating ‘random misfire on startup’. The first time was at a dealer after getting some services, they reset the code and sent me on my way. Second time was at another dealer after an oil change. That time I ignored it, reset the code, went on my merry way. Now 500 miles later I noticed it idling a little rough and then the light came on.

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Of course it would happen today when all the service departments are closed. Guess I’ll leave the code until Tuesday and hope nothing else goes wrong...

Needless to say I’m not all that happy about it. Guess I have an excuse to go test drive some Camaros now

DISCUSSION (51)

Birddog > Jayhawk Jake
05/28/2016 at 16:11

You had to do the License Plate thing. This is how you get Ants!

RazoE > Jayhawk Jake
05/28/2016 at 16:11

Fix Or Repair Daily

All joking aside, What’s the actual code it’s throwing? Could be a loose connector at the MAF, CPS, etc.

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > Jayhawk Jake
05/28/2016 at 16:14

This is what happens when you don’t feed the Mustang’s blood lust..it starts to behave poorly

dogisbadob > Jayhawk Jake
05/28/2016 at 16:22

Bilt Ford Tuff :p

But I thought Accords were real good cars!!!!!!!!

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Jayhawk Jake
05/28/2016 at 16:29

Unacceptable in my mind, but hopefully you won’t end up as bad as they guy on here with the cursed C250 (or was it a C300?)

Jayhawk Jake > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
05/28/2016 at 16:30

At least this should get fixed. I hear a high pitched noise from my speakers that two dealers have failed to diagnose, let alone attempt to fix

Jayhawk Jake > RazoE
05/28/2016 at 16:31

P0300.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Jayhawk Jake
05/28/2016 at 16:33

Hmm. The problem with new cars is that your standards skyrocket, and you develop superhuman hearing. My Tacoma makes all kinds of little noises and they screech at me, mockingly. Meanwhile any noises made by the Celica remain dismissed entirely.

Jayhawk Jake > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
05/28/2016 at 16:35

You’re not wrong. It’s still annoying, and for a new car it’s ridiculous I can’t get it fixed.

There’s a pretty good chance my first Ford will be my last

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Jayhawk Jake
05/28/2016 at 16:37

Talk about a turn of events.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
05/28/2016 at 16:39

Firewrx (or something like that). C250. Pretty sure I know what’s wrong with it but his dealer is stupid. Not exactly one of MB’s better engines either...

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Jayhawk Jake
05/28/2016 at 16:41

Time to remove all pictures of it at autox from the internet!

Seriously though, hopefully there’s a bulletin and its easy to figure out and fix.

Jayhawk Jake > AMGtech - now with more recalls!
05/28/2016 at 16:44

That would be a special kind of bullshit. Autocross is not that hard on a car

Caleb "If a rally car can do it, so can my Malibu" M. S. > Jayhawk Jake
05/28/2016 at 16:44

On the off chance you get a Camaro, I can see you rocking a turbo-4 1LT in Nightfall Grey Metallic with the black 20in rims.

Jayhawk Jake > Caleb "If a rally car can do it, so can my Malibu" M. S.
05/28/2016 at 16:46

Hyper Blue, and I think I would go for the V6.

Not happening anytime soon. Not really something I can afford to do.

Caleb "If a rally car can do it, so can my Malibu" M. S. > Jayhawk Jake
05/28/2016 at 16:48

Maybe the Turbo 4 nightfall grey etc was more intended for my pleasure.

But iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiif you do, you have to get a plate that says “mustang”

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Jayhawk Jake
05/28/2016 at 16:48

Oh I know. I was half joking. But some dealers can be complete assholes about stuff like that.

Frenchlicker > Jayhawk Jake
05/28/2016 at 16:54

It seems many new cars are like this. It’s sad because it sours a person’s thoughts towards a brand as a whole.

E90M3 > Jayhawk Jake
05/28/2016 at 16:55

The Explorer I had liked to eat sensors. It decided after the cam shaft position sensor, and the throttle position sensor, the crankshaft position sensor was up next. It was February of 2014 and I was in Alice Texas, 5 months into my new job. It would do this thing where it’d take a couple of times to start, then one day it just decided that it didn’t want to start, so it got towed to Ford. I didn’t know any other place to take it and I was making good money, plus free rent. They had it for a week while I was in the field and they were finally able to figure out what the culprit was, and got the part ordered and fixed. I had it back for 2 days, and on my way back from Corpus Christi, the check engine light comes on and starts flashing at me. Fuck. I was like, I’m going back to Georgia in a month, I’ll just drive it around until then and fix it myself. I was really getting tired of the damn thing, I had it for 8 years at this point and it was pretty unreliable, so if it died, I was just going to ahead and get the M3 before I really wanted to. In a Ford, if your check engine light flashes at you it means something that could harm the catalytic converter is happening. Well I drove it like that for a month and 2000 miles, including 1050 in 17 hours in one day. When I get home, I check the ODB 2 reader, cylinder 1 misfire. Pop the hood, and my dad is like you see something wrong? I was like uh no. The spark plug wire that goes from the coil or whatever it’s called was disconnected. I guess when it was at Ford they disconnected it for diagnostics and didn’t completely reconnect it. Reconnected it, reset the code and never had a problem again. I felt like a dumb ass, but hey at least it was a simple fix. I guess my Explorer wanted to do it’s best Mercedes 300D impression.

-this space for rent- > Jayhawk Jake
05/28/2016 at 17:00

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/mustang…

Sam > Jayhawk Jake
05/28/2016 at 17:00

My guess a that's it's just a loose wire or something. I'd say just force the dealer to check it out under warranty.

Cherry_man1 > Jayhawk Jake
05/28/2016 at 17:06

yours is the eco boost right? that gives me another reason to never buy the eco boost.

V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! > E90M3
05/28/2016 at 17:16

The flashing check engine light means a transmission/drivetrain code (wheel speed sensor for example).....

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > Jayhawk Jake
05/28/2016 at 17:34

Well resetting the light won't do jack shit. The dealer should be doing a real diagnosis and fixing it under warranty.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > AMGtech - now with more recalls!
05/28/2016 at 17:34

They do that to protect the consumer!

Chasaboo > Jayhawk Jake
05/28/2016 at 17:35

Dude at work has a Mustang, and he’s the laughingstock of the office, why? The thing is a mechanical disaster. Hell, there are BMWs at work with less issues. No one wants to ride in his car.

E90M3 > V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me!
05/28/2016 at 17:35

For mine it was because it was just dumping fuel into cylinder 1 and not firing, I think they did change it up at some point

Rico > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
05/28/2016 at 17:36

You don't develop super human hearing you just expect a certain level of quality when you purchase something that's never been driven before.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > Sam
05/28/2016 at 17:36

The original dealer should have done that in the first place instead of just clearing the code and doing diddly squat.

Rico > Chasaboo
05/28/2016 at 17:38

Yikes!

Sam > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly
05/28/2016 at 18:09

Oh yeah, he should also make it clear that they did that to him.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Cherry_man1
05/28/2016 at 18:10

This is just Ford in general.

Jayhawk Jake > Frenchlicker
05/28/2016 at 18:10

Definitely. I’m not thrilled with Ford so far. Shoulda stuck with GM...

Cherry_man1 > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
05/28/2016 at 18:13

my 2011 mustang gt has 75k miles 0 problems.

Your boy, BJR > Jayhawk Jake
05/28/2016 at 18:17

Yup.

RazoE > Chasaboo
05/28/2016 at 18:20

This gen is supposed to be more European, it’s just acting like it’s Euro competitors. Trololololol

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Cherry_man1
05/28/2016 at 18:22

It has problems. Source: I have an S197. They just have problems.

TheD0k_2many toys 2little time > Jayhawk Jake
05/28/2016 at 18:24

people go to dealerships to get codes read?

Frenchlicker > Jayhawk Jake
05/28/2016 at 18:42

It’s scrap shoot either way. Some people have good Ford experiences while some have good GM experiences and some(quiet a bit rarer) have good Chrysler experiences. It’s all luck of the draw.regardless, to each their own. It also helps if you love a brand, then you can ignore annoyances as long as they are cheap/free to fix.

Cherry_man1 > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
05/28/2016 at 19:12

How many miles into your S197 did the problems start? Also how many miles did you get them with?

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Cherry_man1
05/28/2016 at 19:14

I got it at 130k with problems. I’ve fixed what’s broken, the platform is just flawed. So is every S550 that I’ve ever driven.

Cherry_man1 > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
05/28/2016 at 19:17

What broke, just in case I come across them as well in mine. because I’ve have had a 2008 and now a 2011 with 70k+ miles on both with no issues.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Cherry_man1
05/28/2016 at 19:44

You misunderstand me. It’s not stuff breaking per se, it’s just Ford’s completely garbage QA and build quality. Aluminum hood paint flaking off? You bet your ass. Stupid plastic door handle crap breaking? Oh, of course. Door handle pushrods requiring adjustment and/or glue? yep. The stupid exhaust rattle at 1600rpm that is a KNOWN ISSUE with no known solution (V6 only, I believe), the little handles on the back of the seats for getting out of the rear seat that always fall off (fixed with copious use of glue, still dumb as shit to not secure those with a screw somehow), the dust boot/cover thing of the automatic shifter that is broken on every single Mustang to ever exist ever, etc. etc. etc.

And the S550 has panel fitment that is rivaled by the likes of the Chevrolet Sonic, Spark, hell even my thrice-wrecked Miata has better panel fitment than an S550.

Don’t get me wrong, the Mustang is a good car, but not a great car, and certainly not a well-built car.

wafflesnfalafel > Jayhawk Jake
05/28/2016 at 19:53

poop... (But stuff happens - my wife’s old Altima ate a fuel injector at about 7,000 miles stranding her a couple times. We replaced it and didn’t have any other major issues.)

Jayhawk Jake > Frenchlicker
05/28/2016 at 20:07

I doubt I’ll never buy another Ford again, though the Ecoboost mustang is basically the only car they make I want. It’s just shitty

Frenchlicker > Jayhawk Jake
05/28/2016 at 20:37

Again, to each their own. That's how I personally feel about GM so I understand the feeling.

Cherry_man1 > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
05/28/2016 at 21:46

I have never seen those issues in the 2 I’ve owned maybe I’ve been lucky but I just don’t see those issues manifesting on my car at all. I’ve had my 2008 V6 from 8900 to 75k miles and my 2011 GT for the last 55k miles on it. All cars have issues like this as well you can’t just single one thing out. It’s like saying the E46 M3 is bad because SMG, VANOS, and other little problems it has. All cars have it.

Tuned-Port-Injected-Rage > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
05/29/2016 at 01:22

Fucking this. Every single S550 I see at my dealership has completely garbage panel fitment. I recently had a triple yellow convertible. GT, Performance Pack, 6 speed, etc. You name it. It was like a $48k Mustang, and the fitment was so bad that I literally thought it was involved in an accident.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Tuned-Port-Injected-Rage
05/29/2016 at 09:43

Yep. Panel fitment on them is atrocious. What’s funny about S197s is that people call mine a piece of shit but it is in FAR better condition than 90% of S197s I’ve seen.

MGisalwaystheanswer > Jayhawk Jake
05/29/2016 at 12:51

My wife drives a 2002 Thunderbird(I know, you are supposed to hate them), from almost new (when purchased it had 1500 miles on it). Shortly after purchasing, it started up with high pitch speaker noise, when eventually became the sound of a UFO landing in the trunk. Eventually, they ended up replacing the head unit, amp, sub, rear speakers, and the entire stereo wiring harness before it was solved.

Jayhawk Jake > MGisalwaystheanswer
05/29/2016 at 14:13

I HOPE mine gets worse because then they'll try to fix it.